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Missing Generations

I am an analyst by training, that is what I do so when I look at a family pedigree I look for things that do not fit with known knowledge and the commonly accepted pedigree of the O'Kellys of Hy-Many is an example.  If my reader will review the data at Wordpress on the history of Life expectancy they will find that until about a hundred years ago our ancestors did not live very long.  To live to 60 years was the exception and not the rule, to live to 90 would be like living to 105 today, it happened I have no doubt but it was rare.  I suspect in most cases generations were 20 years or less between father and son, some may have been 15 years and many of the men listed below were likely born to a teenage mother and a father not much older. 

Our ancestors lived a much different life from out own, until recent times they lived and sometimes died just from during water because the knowledge of boiling water to make it safe only became know in the 20th century.  Because water carried on short journeys could become deadly quickly, to the surprise of many our ancestors dranked beer from cradle to grave.  The process of making beer required boiling and our ancestors were unknowingly purifying their drink. Our ancestors truly lived a much different life than we have been told and that is why the Pedigree of Kelly must be missing some generations, they just did not live as long as some are represented..

When I use a very conservative 25 year generation something that would be more common today we find a dozen missing ancestors in the traditional and widely accepted pedigree of the O'Kellys of Hy-Many.  Dermott #9 isn't even in many trees but there should be someone at #9 so Dermott will do since he appears in some other trees. Dermott is reported to have been King for 60 years and if that were true, he would have lived to a very unusual age of 78.  Not impossible but rare.

I am certain some are asking why this matters.  What difference does it make if some generations are missing from the pedigree?  As far as knowing the ancestors one descended it isn't important but DNA is based upon how many generations exists between you and a shared ancestor you may have with a DNA match so it is a very big deal when using DNA to attempt to discover who that shared ancestor might be.  In my case it determines if the common ancestor that I and the current descendant of Hy-Many share lived before or after Teige of Clontarf so every blank below is a missing generations and must be consider in DNA analysis.  I don't need to know their names only that they lived and produced children, sthus causing DNA to mutate as it is passed to the next generation.  The birth dates are manufactured by me to indicate a 25 year generation.  In a few cases when the date of birth is known and it was near the 25 year mark, the actual date of birth as given in the Pedigree of Kelly is used. To highlight the life expectancy I have also listed some of the English Kings and Queens as their lives were often much better than the Irish of any standing.  The Kings and Queens of England were some of the most protected and cared for monarchs in the world.  King George II was at the time of his death in 1760 the longest living English Monarch and he died at the age of 77.  I think it is unreasonable to believe the regional kings of Ireland consistently lived longer or well into their 70s, 80s, or 90s when the Kings and Queens of England did not.  Certainly some may have lived to 80, those that did would be rare in number, and I doubt any lived to the age of 90.


  Ancestor Birth Death Age Other Notables Age at Death
1 Ceallach 825 875 50 Aethelred 34
2 Hugh 850 895 45 Alfred the Great 50
3 Moroch 875 960 85    
4   900 985      
5   925        
6 Tiege of Clontarf 950 1014 64    
7 Tiege 975 1030 55    
8 Conor 1000 1065 65 William I 59
9 Dermott * 1025 1090 70 William II 40
10 Conor 1050 1115 65    
11 Tadhg 1075 1135 60 Henry I 67
12 Diarmaid 1100 1160 60 Stephen 58
13 Conor 1125 1180 55 Henry II 56
14 Teigh 1150 1180 30 Henry 28
15 Daniel 1175 1224 49 Richard I 41
16 Conor 1201 1268 67 Henry III 65
17 1225 1279 54 John 49
18 Donnoch 1240 1307 67 Edward I 68
19   1275     Edward II 43
20 William 1297 1381 86 Edward III 64
21 Melaghlin** 1326 1401 75 Richard II 33
22 William 1350 1420 70 Henry IV 46
23   1375 1451   Henry V 35
24 Hugh 1400 1476 76 Henry VI 49
25 Daniel 1425 1501 55 Edward IV 41
26 1450 1526 51 Richard III 32
27   1475 1545 70 Henry VII 52
28 Kellach 1500 1565 65 Henry VIII 55
29   1525 1590   Queen Elizabeth 69
30 Feardoroghue 1550 1611 61    
31 Melaghlin 1575 1637 60 King James 58
32 Brian of Aughrim *** 1600 1641 41 Charles I 48
33 Teige of Aughrim *** 1625     Charles II 54
34 James of Aughrim 1650 1691 41 Queen Anne 49
35 John 1675 1732 57 George II 77
36 William of Buckfield 1700 1760 60    
37 (William) Dennis**** 1732        
             
             
  My Family Line          
37 William (Denis)** 1730        
38 Charles 1756 1810 54    
39 Charles Dean 1795 1865 75    
40 James Stamps 1824 1898 74    
41 Charles William 1848 1919 71    
42 Albert Henry 1900 1987 87    
43 Conley Horton 1927 2009 82    
44 Rick 1952      

 * Dermont does not appear in the pedigree in Dr John O'Donovan "Tribes and Customs of Hy-Many: Commonly called O'Kelly Country", nor does he appear in the Pedigree of Walter O'Kelly the current Chief or "The O'Kelly".  The Pedigree of O'Kelly reports he was Chief of Hy-Many for 60 years.
** the ancestor that James of Aughrim shares with the line of the current descendant of Hy-Many.
***This is in conflict with the Pedigree of O'Kelly  but I believe this is the line that James descended. 
**** Not yet proven so please do not replicate but it may be possible that Dennis Kelly the third son of William Kelly of Buckfield and my grandfather William who I believe was the Lt William Dennis O'Kelley that served in our revolution and appeared as head of his household upon the 1782 Mecklenburg Va State Census are the same person.

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